tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1178262688226237317.post4150419624989800457..comments2023-06-15T04:28:05.100-07:00Comments on The School of Battle: The Intent of the VorschlagHugh Knighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16542885684779106386noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1178262688226237317.post-34243149139842618342013-05-15T02:19:02.713-07:002013-05-15T02:19:02.713-07:00Hi Davy,
I don't mean any offense, but I’m not...Hi Davy,<br />I don't mean any offense, but I’m not sure I understand what you're saying. You seem to be saying that we are told to follow the blow because that is the strongest way to cut. If so, that is incorrect. Ringeck says to cut from the right if you are right handed because you will be stronger in the bind (see fol. 12r and fol. 14r), and that’s true. That is totally correct, but it’s a different issue. In that section, Ringeck is explaining why you should never use a left cut as a Vorschlag, but that’s not why you follow the blow, that just says that when you do cut, you should cut from the right.<br /><br />Please re-read my essay where I quote Ringeck talking about the reason for following the blow—he specifically says it’s to preempt your opponent’s attack, forcing him to defend. Yes, it should be done with a right attack, but that’s a separate issue, one I didn’t address in this essay. You attack from the right when you do a Vorschlag so you can be stronger in the bind, but that’s not the *intent* of the Vorschlag, that’s just one factor in how it should be done.<br /><br />Re-read Ringeck and I think you will see these are two separate issues. I hope this gives you a clearer understanding of Ringeck’s instructions.<br />Hugh Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16542885684779106386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1178262688226237317.post-4071839489253176702013-05-15T01:44:55.731-07:002013-05-15T01:44:55.731-07:00Hi Hugh,
this is a nice article, but I think that ...Hi Hugh,<br />this is a nice article, but I think that you are making conclusions on things that are unsure and maybe need to be interpreted differently. As far as my knowledge on the Liechtenauer/Ringeck tradition reaches, Liechtenauer tells you to always follow the blow with a step (regardless if it is a vorschlag or a parrying strike or ...). One of the reasons for this is what Liechtenauer describes as strong fighting, if your left leg is in front, you should strike from the right side with a step so that you are at your strongest (try it the other way around and your body gets twisted). Also, if I look at the Joachim Meyer, then he explains that one needs to step when striking so that when you can get into reach of your opponent and you can continue with your artful piece or in worst case when your opponent steps away, you will have the advantage that you have gained space and that your opponent will run out of space eventually.<br />This expresses my opinions on that matter but I found it nice to read your article since it makes me think about this subject from a different perspective.<br />With kind regards,<br />Davy Van ElstUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18159597461837997515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1178262688226237317.post-59423251529342798232013-05-13T10:04:50.724-07:002013-05-13T10:04:50.724-07:00Thank you, Scott, I appreciate it. I hadn't h...Thank you, Scott, I appreciate it. I hadn't heard that story about Wyatt Erp, but you're right, it's a marvelous connection.Hugh Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16542885684779106386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1178262688226237317.post-73503032061964159992013-05-13T10:01:20.841-07:002013-05-13T10:01:20.841-07:00Nice article (as always) Hugh. Teaching this princ...Nice article (as always) Hugh. Teaching this principle in my classes, I often use the quote attributed to Wyatt Earp about "How do you win a gunfight?" He said the key is to "hurry up and take your time." Be fast - but no faster than you need to be in order to be precise and skillful with your technique.S.A. Farrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13314915552488132227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1178262688226237317.post-58226801432603617942013-05-11T12:46:48.842-07:002013-05-11T12:46:48.842-07:00This is an extremely well explained explanation of...This is an extremely well explained explanation of why the Vorschlagen, particularly the Zornhau, are done they way they are.Ian Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05585316796421964527noreply@blogger.com